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HUNDREDS of stolen photos: groups in http://vkontakte.ru [Sep. 13th, 2011|01:29 am]
Fake Hair is Luff

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[dreadviolet]
I have some thousand + stolen photos for you ladies.

Find yours?
Once you've found your photos from the original site, contact support(at)vkontakte.ru with links.

If / when you recognize some other seller's photos, please inform them directly and let us know who you've recognized and informed.

All the photos and info about the case under the cut.

There are three different selling-groups, so three different photo-stealing-sellers in question.

The first gallery:





Satelina Perfect Synthetic Hair
http://vkontakte.ru/club10072542
Her gallery: http://vkontakte.ru/photos-10072542
















































The second gallery:

Sweet Hair Extensions
http://vkontakte.ru/club26775930
Her gallery: http://vkontakte.ru/photos-26775930
Her gallery at Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.1507100373695.49506.1719893064

















The third gallery:

DE dreadlocks COPYRIGHT DECORATION
http://vkontakte.ru/club16674271
her gallery: http://vkontakte.ru/photos-16674271














So please girls, let the others know!

About the site, vkontakte.ru: I was able to log in there through one friendly friend-of-a-friend. There is no report -buttons there, so registering to the site (requires phone number) isn't worth it. I emailed the site support about my photos (pretty much the whole gallery of my website...), let's hope the support helps.
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[User Picture]From: pure_pandora
2011-09-13 12:08 am (UTC)
They are not stolen! Those pics are posted as an example of what the braider can do.
They have comments, like "these are not mine, but I can do the same". And braiders' works are posted in special albums called "My works".

People don't steal the pics, they just google and find them. When it's a braider from your country, you can find him online and ask, whether you may take his work for an example album or not. And when you don't even know who made it, you can't ask. They don't say it's their work, they just post it so that other people could choose.




I'm sorry, it's just I'm a braider too, and no, I don't google pictures, I just ask and take them from friendly braiders. But I know people who just find those pictures and want to braid the same stuff. I also know there are lots of real thieves in Vkontakte, and I try my best to report them and kick out of the site. You misunderstood those girls, they are not thieves at all.

Pandora, http://vkontakte.ru/pandora_afro
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[User Picture]From: ikickshins
2011-09-13 05:59 am (UTC)
That's not how copyright works. Finding an image on Google doesn't automatically mean it falls under fair use.
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[User Picture]From: dreadviolet
2011-09-13 07:46 am (UTC)
Well. If you find photos with google images, it's easier than anything in the world to click yourself on the page you found it from. At my site (and also in those pictures!) I clearly state that using any of these photos without permission is strictly forbidden, and also when you use google image seach, it tells you that Intellectual property rights may limit the use of the image... So yeah, if you have this kind of way to act at vkontakte, then please do your part in educating people about copyrights...

And please, don't tell me that's not stealing. Look at these printscreens and see what's happening under the photos of my work. If that's not a try to benefit from my work, then I don't know what is.







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[User Picture]From: nemesis2207
2011-09-13 10:42 am (UTC)
We spend a lot of time creating those styles and taking those pictures. They can make their own or at least ask for permission, there's no excuse. It is stealing of pictures AND original designs.
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[User Picture]From: dreadviolet
2011-09-13 08:23 am (UTC)
No prob. It seems like I've become a copyright police! :D

I took time to do this just because when I was collecting the links of my photos there for the email (even that took me 2 hours, there were practically every photo from my website...), I got so pissed off! Pic after pic these girls showing my work and offering to do the same - when it's obvious, they can't do it with the same standards as I do! (No offense! I just figure that out from the prices they're giving and the fact that they don't have their own pics to show).
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[User Picture]From: rivetlicker
2011-09-13 09:58 am (UTC)
I recognise yours Marjo, Cypherlox + JenDoll + Triple Six, Nevermind Creations, Cirque Machine + Nafrayou, Beautifully Chaotic, I Kick Shins, I think those modelled ones are from Cyberloxx.de or some other UK based seller, sure of it, Halocaustic, Dolly Decay, Jungle Dread + Kai Gutterface, Squeak, DollyLox + Cinnamon from HEF, more Nafrayou and Princesse-Pudding, Anarchy Hair + SiSen, Dare2Wear, I think Neko Designs from Canada, Alpha Bitch, Poxabomination (Julia Guidoboni), LS Seven, Foxy Faux (known on the Quinnsters site). None of mine =/ WOW, I'm kinda pissed off now lmao!
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[User Picture]From: nemesis2207
2011-09-13 10:38 am (UTC)
Thanks for tagging me...
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[User Picture]From: nemesis2207
2011-09-13 10:37 am (UTC)
Yeah, I'd like to see how they reproduce my wigs exactly! They are bound to fail. Anyway, it's not worth the time for the money I get, I make them because I'm passionate about it, so I don't see the point in stealing my styles. Goodluck with that!

And yes, it is stealing. you can make dreads, but not reproduce the exact same style of wig when it's original and get money for it. And use your own damn pictures, we spend a lot of time making our own, why would you be allowed to use them for free without even asking???

Thanks dreadviolet for pointing this one out, it must have taken you a lot of time and energy!
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[User Picture]From: dreadviolet
2011-09-13 11:10 am (UTC)
I'm pretty annoyed about this, and even more annoyed after getting an attitude from this Alyssa/Satelina after asking to remove my photos:

http://vkontakte.ru/photo-10072542_131144217?all=1
http://vkontakte.ru/photo-10072542_131143548?all=1

By what I've heard from a friend, it's higly unlikely that the admins of vkontakte.ru would actually remove any of the users contect (I've been told that the site is full of music and movies and it doesn't get removed, and that piracy is rampant in Russia and its harder to buy an original cd or movie than a fake over there). So since I can use that friend's account, I am just trying to talk sense to the girls. But it seems they're very ignorant on this matter. It might be that we're not getting our photos out of there.

If you would want to register to the site, you would need to give your phone number to them.

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[User Picture]From: pure_pandora
2011-09-13 11:23 am (UTC)
Forgot to mention:

if you really want to do something with that, in VK it's quiet hard. I already tried) There's a link below every page (I mean, ID page, not the group), you can clock it and send a letter to admins, chosing one of three points: porn, spam or insulting behavior. I'd recommend spam, they try their best to fight it) You have to be signed in to do that.
And that may actually help, if several different people click the same, the user's page will be blocked.
That's pretty all you can do, because other ways to fight it are too complicated.

Once I tried to report stealing of my works, and they offered me to scan my passport, then to make a picture of me in front of opened page of my works with the passport, and something else like that. Of course I didn't do it) Like I'll send the copy of my passport to anyone, no thanks)
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[User Picture]From: pure_pandora
2011-09-13 12:42 pm (UTC)
*click of course, not clock))) Sorry)
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[User Picture]From: dreadviolet
2011-09-13 12:44 pm (UTC)
pure_pandora: could you please help us and contact those girls also?

We do believe that things are different there in Russia, but that is no excuse anyhow. It's no point repeating that this happens and keeps on happening, we already know that. And it happens in Europe/US also. Unfortunately. We're trying to do what we can to solve this particular matter.

Maybe you could post about this at your hair community you mentioned and contact those girls in vkontakte. I don't have much hope about the pictures being removed by admins, but I still (try to) believe in common sense...

So please, do what you can to help?
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[User Picture]From: pure_pandora
2011-09-13 12:45 pm (UTC)
Sure, I can post this to our community with comments in Russian!
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[User Picture]From: pingback_bot
2011-09-13 01:02 pm (UTC)

А вот и ласточки с зарубежных сайтов)

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[User Picture]From: dreadviolet
2011-09-18 11:15 am (UTC)

Re: А вот и ласточки с зарубежных сайтов)

Dear pure_pandora,

it seems like other two took the photos out (at least mine), but Satelina/Alyssa just made the group invisible to us. Obviously the photos are still there.
Any of the trying to talk sense to her didn't cause any action from her part. I would have thought even she would understand once I explained her in the friendly way. But no.

Can you check if this link let's you see the photos: http://vkontakte.ru/photo-10072542_131144217?all=1 (if vkontakte has the same kind of option that facebook has - that you can ban people based on their country, she might have done something like that). Any of the content is not visible for me.

If you can access there and our photos are still there (i know they are), is it possible for you to name and shame her own the russian LJ group etc.? Or comment at her group? Or even better, do both?

I just can't belive how someone would choose to be as ignorant, selfish, arrogant... I can't even find the right words to describe my annoyance at this point. This isn't acceptable by any means, and I think by acting this way she really deserves people also at Russia to know a bit about her ethics and moral.
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[User Picture]From: dreadviolet
2011-09-13 02:44 pm (UTC)
Update for the situation, concerning the of the group "DE dreadlocks copyright decoration" at vkontakte: She has removed all my photos. She also removed my message from her wall (well, surprise, surprise). There are however still some photos that aren't hers but it's good to know that she's at least reacting. :)

http://vkontakte.ru/photos-16674271

I can help you by delivering your message to her. So if you find your photos there and want it to be removed, message me with a link and maybe some words from your own mouth, and I can write your message under your photos. Seems to be working at least with this one girl.
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[User Picture]From: dreadviolet
2011-09-13 02:58 pm (UTC)
Also "Sweet hair extensions" has removed my photos, and seems like AlphaBitches photos are gone too.

So same with her, if you find your pics, message me and I'll message her.

http://vkontakte.ru/photos-26775930
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[User Picture]From: nemesis2207
2011-09-14 08:37 am (UTC)
Damn, I guess the pictures that pissed me off more to see up there were on the other page. :/ Oh well...
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[User Picture]From: nemesis2207
2011-09-14 08:46 am (UTC)
Satelina is the one whose I'm really mad about. She's even using my wig pictures on her site front page!!! Pffff... no respect at all.
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[User Picture]From: nemesis2207
2011-09-14 08:33 am (UTC)
Well, she should take them all off, but ok, a start... how can she promise all those accessories too? It's obviously from different artists. Heh, my head is exploding also, brains coming out the ears. ;)

Picture #161

Hmmm, I don't have another message than please take off my picture. :/

If she can make one like this, which I doubt, she can post her pictures and be proud of it.
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[User Picture]From: dreadviolet
2011-09-16 06:51 am (UTC)
Can you link me your photos and I can deliver your message.
(Even it doesn't actually have any effect on miss Satelina.)
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[User Picture]From: thedirtydead
2011-10-01 07:24 am (UTC)
Whoa, crazy.

I would be super pissed off if I was to buy from either of these places.

When I am buying something online and view the pictures, I expect that they are the product of the person who has created them unless they are being sold on behalf of the original creator.

I would also be very VERY pissed off if someone was using MY picture to sell a product they didn't even create.

What a crock.

Glad something is being done about it now.
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From: kilgoreyno
2011-11-01 04:09 am (UTC)
excellent articles, useful for me. keep writing and happy blogging.

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